Deck Stair Footer Below Frost Line

by Zach
(New Jersey)


Hello all,

I have been looking for a good way to construct the footer for deck stairs. My research has lead me to believe that it is not necessary but a good idea to have the footer of your deck stairs go below the frost line. I have been looking around trying to find a good way to accomplish what I want and haven't found a solution that I like.

I had idea to use a 4x6 and 2 concrete foundations. I would dig two holes near the ends of the lowest stair. install 2 concrete footers and use simpson strong tie concrete to wood connectors (PB44Z). I would then install a 4x6 across the supports. I would follow that up with attaching the stringers to the 4x6 with joist hangers. I have drawn this out in sketchup and attached a snip of the model.

I just want to know what you guys think. Any feedback good or bad would be much appreciated.

Some added details:
Total stair width is 50"
Railings will be over the steps and the bottom post will bolt down to the top of the stair (into the 4x6 below the tread).
Total rise of steps is ~36"
Using Timbertech Azek deck boards which require spacing of 10" (or some other form of support)
Frost line where I am at is 36"

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Sep 16, 2025
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Similar Situation
by: Anonymous

How has this worked out? I’m looking at a similar situation with about 50" wide steps and a 48" frost line. I don’t want to pour a solid block the width of the stairs. I’m considering something similar to your design, but probably bearing the stringers on top of the beam instead, as I’m leaving my risers open (only 24" total rise). My main concern: will the ground in between the footings push up on the beam when it freezes? I’m planning to surround it with crushed stone for drainage, but if it just pushes up, it defeats the whole purpose. I’d love any thoughts!

Feb 18, 2025
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been looking for this
by: Anonymous

i like it!

building in an area with a 60" frost line and trying to find something like this which uses a couple of piers vs full width of the stairs

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